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		<title>By: Dhiren Gala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dhiren Gala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ravindranath, you can find more information on BI here: http://maia-intelligence.com/articles.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ravindranath, you can find more information on BI here: <a href="http://maia-intelligence.com/articles.htm" rel="nofollow">http://maia-intelligence.com/articles.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bade Ravindranath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bade Ravindranath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please define more about Business Intelligence (BI) in context to ERP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please define more about Business Intelligence (BI) in context to ERP</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Article and feedbacks. Makes my job much easier as we provide custom solution and services for any BI related field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Article and feedbacks. Makes my job much easier as we provide custom solution and services for any BI related field.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Why do we need Business Intelligence, we have an ERP? &#124; BI Blog &#124; Business Intelligence (BI) Blog -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Nader Hanna, Dominic Blouin. Dominic Blouin said: Une question qui revient souvent : Why do we need Business Intelligence, we have an ERP? http://t.co/GBeZO9P [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Nader Hanna, Dominic Blouin. Dominic Blouin said: Une question qui revient souvent : Why do we need Business Intelligence, we have an ERP? <a href="http://t.co/GBeZO9P" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/GBeZO9P</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: R.M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>R.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 05:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This information &#039;Why do we need Business Intelligence (BI), when we already have an ERP?&#039; really saved me some time from all the scouring I would have had to do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This information &#8216;Why do we need Business Intelligence (BI), when we already have an ERP?&#8217; really saved me some time from all the scouring I would have had to do!</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 13:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely disagree with Hasith in his perspective that you lose competitive advantage defined by your &quot;process uniqueness&quot; by moving to an ERP System. 

It is organizational hubris that makes people think their methodology or process of doing business is unique.   

For almost every industry and every company there are basic functions that must be performed... 
-create products 
   (or outsource them or buy them from vendors), 
-identify and manage customers, 
-take orders, 
-process orders, 
-ship products, 
-invoice and 
-receive payments.  

All of those are essentially commodity functions. If  they are standarized across an organization though a well designed ERP system (that leverages the same sets of master data) they&#039;ll provide a high degree of efficiency.    It&#039;s when the organization tries to be &quot;fancy&quot; and breaks far outside the norm that complications and complexities arise both in the business and in the system itself.  

ERP implementations often don&#039;t provide the benefits, not because they are too complex, but because the business creates complex requirements that generally don&#039;t make sense, and the business thinks that they way they&#039;ve been doing business is the &quot;ONLY WAY&quot;.    

i.e give a 3% discount to customers that start with &quot;Z&quot; but only on tuesdays when it&#039;s raining... or create  a process that delivers to strategic customers  faster than to non-strategic even if the order came in 10 days later than the non-strategic customers order...and the product has a 10-day lead time....thus bumping the non-strategic order out to 20 days...forever losing them as a potential strategic customer.      

Solution is to leverage as much standard process as possible - and focus competive advantage on things like strategic and analytical Business Intelligence, on Selling techniques or marketing techniques, cost saving and  outsourcing techniques, drop ship processes and inventory control.   The low cost provider (not low price) strategy is one of the hardest to to match.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely disagree with Hasith in his perspective that you lose competitive advantage defined by your &#8220;process uniqueness&#8221; by moving to an ERP System. </p>
<p>It is organizational hubris that makes people think their methodology or process of doing business is unique.   </p>
<p>For almost every industry and every company there are basic functions that must be performed&#8230;<br />
-create products<br />
   (or outsource them or buy them from vendors),<br />
-identify and manage customers,<br />
-take orders,<br />
-process orders,<br />
-ship products,<br />
-invoice and<br />
-receive payments.  </p>
<p>All of those are essentially commodity functions. If  they are standarized across an organization though a well designed ERP system (that leverages the same sets of master data) they&#8217;ll provide a high degree of efficiency.    It&#8217;s when the organization tries to be &#8220;fancy&#8221; and breaks far outside the norm that complications and complexities arise both in the business and in the system itself.  </p>
<p>ERP implementations often don&#8217;t provide the benefits, not because they are too complex, but because the business creates complex requirements that generally don&#8217;t make sense, and the business thinks that they way they&#8217;ve been doing business is the &#8220;ONLY WAY&#8221;.    </p>
<p>i.e give a 3% discount to customers that start with &#8220;Z&#8221; but only on tuesdays when it&#8217;s raining&#8230; or create  a process that delivers to strategic customers  faster than to non-strategic even if the order came in 10 days later than the non-strategic customers order&#8230;and the product has a 10-day lead time&#8230;.thus bumping the non-strategic order out to 20 days&#8230;forever losing them as a potential strategic customer.      </p>
<p>Solution is to leverage as much standard process as possible &#8211; and focus competive advantage on things like strategic and analytical Business Intelligence, on Selling techniques or marketing techniques, cost saving and  outsourcing techniques, drop ship processes and inventory control.   The low cost provider (not low price) strategy is one of the hardest to to match.</p>
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		<title>By: Hasith</title>
		<link>http://blog.maia-intelligence.com/2008/03/15/why-do-we-need-business-intelligence-we-have-an-erp/comment-page-1/#comment-276</link>
		<dc:creator>Hasith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reality it is very questionable how many ERP implementations achieve the expectations. It is impracticle to find a single solution that suits all your processes in all departments. Mostly what we see is organizations changing their processes to match their million bug investment rather than ERP software adapting itself to organization business processes.

This mean you are obviously loosing your competitive advantage which is defined by you process uniqueness. 

Yes I agree BI can fix some stuff for these headless fat chicken organizations, but what you need is a more agile mechanism to manage your processes. BPM concepts bring some light to the grounds, but have to wait and see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reality it is very questionable how many ERP implementations achieve the expectations. It is impracticle to find a single solution that suits all your processes in all departments. Mostly what we see is organizations changing their processes to match their million bug investment rather than ERP software adapting itself to organization business processes.</p>
<p>This mean you are obviously loosing your competitive advantage which is defined by you process uniqueness. </p>
<p>Yes I agree BI can fix some stuff for these headless fat chicken organizations, but what you need is a more agile mechanism to manage your processes. BPM concepts bring some light to the grounds, but have to wait and see.</p>
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		<title>By: Ayesha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ayesha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hii.,
I got some more information on the history of the word ERP=that stands for Enterprise resource planning..! which i would like to share.......

The initials ERP originated as an extension of MRP (material requirements planning then manufacturing resource planning).[2] ERP systems now attempt to cover all basic functions of an enterprise, regardless of the organization&#039;s business or charter. Non-manufacturing businesses, non-profit organizations and governments now all utilize ERP systems.

To be considered an ERP system, a software package must provide the function of at least two systems. For example, a software package that provides both payroll and accounting functions could technically be considered an ERP software package.

However, the term is typically reserved for larger, more broadly based applications. The introduction of an ERP system to replace two or more independent applications eliminates the need for external interfaces previously required between systems, and provides additional benefits that range from standardization and lower maintenance (one system instead of two or more) to easier and/or greater reporting capabilities (as all data is typically kept in one database).

Examples of modules in an ERP which formerly would have been stand-alone applications include: Manufacturing, Supply Chain, Financials, Customer Relationship Management (CRM), Human Resources, Warehouse Management and Decision Support System.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hii.,<br />
I got some more information on the history of the word ERP=that stands for Enterprise resource planning..! which i would like to share&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>The initials ERP originated as an extension of MRP (material requirements planning then manufacturing resource planning).[2] ERP systems now attempt to cover all basic functions of an enterprise, regardless of the organization&#8217;s business or charter. Non-manufacturing businesses, non-profit organizations and governments now all utilize ERP systems.</p>
<p>To be considered an ERP system, a software package must provide the function of at least two systems. For example, a software package that provides both payroll and accounting functions could technically be considered an ERP software package.</p>
<p>However, the term is typically reserved for larger, more broadly based applications. The introduction of an ERP system to replace two or more independent applications eliminates the need for external interfaces previously required between systems, and provides additional benefits that range from standardization and lower maintenance (one system instead of two or more) to easier and/or greater reporting capabilities (as all data is typically kept in one database).</p>
<p>Examples of modules in an ERP which formerly would have been stand-alone applications include: Manufacturing, Supply Chain, Financials, Customer Relationship Management (CRM), Human Resources, Warehouse Management and Decision Support System.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://blog.maia-intelligence.com/2008/03/15/why-do-we-need-business-intelligence-we-have-an-erp/comment-page-1/#comment-261</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Cunningham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good post. I wrote a post on analytic applications that received some interesting feedback. Your readers might also find it useful: http://www.lucidera.com/blog/index.php/2007/11/28/what-is-an-analytic-application/

Keep up the great blogging!

Darren</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good post. I wrote a post on analytic applications that received some interesting feedback. Your readers might also find it useful: <a href="http://www.lucidera.com/blog/index.php/2007/11/28/what-is-an-analytic-application/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lucidera.com/blog/index.php/2007/11/28/what-is-an-analytic-application/</a></p>
<p>Keep up the great blogging!</p>
<p>Darren</p>
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